Today in the mail I received a 'super secret' letter from some faux illuminati group called "Nouveau Tech", whos creedo should be "spreading humor to the world one ridiculous letter at a time". This invitation to learn their great secrets is almost as absurd as the 'by mail' prayer blankets that essentially claim to grant wishes, because God obviously wants to be our own personal genie. And it’s almost as sad as the chicken tender crisp bacon cheddar ranch Burger King commercial starring down and out Darius "Hootie and the Blowfish" Rucker. The eight page letter is written as a personal testimony from "John Finn", who apparently is the host of “a late night talk show that many of us watch“. Conan? Anyway, 'Mr. Finn' goes on to say how the "association" has analyzed my "profile" and that I'd be "unbelievably flattered" if I "knew who these individuals were". The letter then asks me to forgive them (the association), because they've found "something special" about me, in my profile, my AOL instant messenger profile I guess. They say that I’m in "cycle two" of my life, an ambiguous term that is meant to amaze me, but also one that can apply to basically every age group they send the letter to, besides senior citizens.
Great. So I read on, still waiting for them to ask me for my credit card information, but I guess that comes sometime after you've already corresponded to the letter.
It goes on for about five pages talking about how I can learn some "shockingly powerful secrets" which can make me:
Prosper in every area of my life: emotionally, personally, physically, romantically and financially.
Learn how to control anyone and make any man or woman like you, admire you, or love you!
All the money, power and romantic love you’ve ever wanted can come to you easily!
…FOR FREE! With extra emphasis on the bold print.
“By now you’re probably skeptical like I was”.
D@%* Straight.
The boring letter continues with another story about some guy who was losing his money at a blackjack table in Vegas, but alas, next him was the luckiest man on the planet and member of Nouveau Tech. Women and money flocked to him like magnets to steel! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, so then the lucky guy tells the loser guy “I think you’re full of potential” and says “You’re a special person, I’ve been expecting you, you have special powers, but the time is not right, when it is, I shall reveal them in time”. Then the guy vanishes in a puff of magic smoke, or whatever other unbelievable thing you can think of. According to the Nouveu Tech official website, their secret tradition inspired the movie 'The Matrix' which is exactly what I'm picturing as I read the letter.
Then eventually the loser guy decides to go back to Vegas and try to find Mr. Lucky again. While heading there he stops off at a library where the lucky guy just-so-happened to have dropped off “the special book”. It goes on to say that Mr. Lucky guy left this 2300 year old manuscript which reveals the secrets to money making or some (#%^.
“once you’re exposed to the ancient secrets of nouveau tech you’ll profit from everyone all the time! FOR FREE!”
Aaaaand it drabs on about how this ancient manuscript, combined with the discoveries of Dr. Frank R. Wallace, will help me get good at casino games and also help me re-gain ex-lovers. Oh boy. It says he learned these secrets while working for Dupont and that he wouldn't sell them his secrets, not even for 50,000 dollars. But he IS kind enough to divulge them to me, for free.
The list of magical powers that I can receive for free goes on and on and on…
Learn to easily beat any opponent in your life…in any situation…COMPLETELY FREE!
Learn how to make your new powers render all others helpless.
Learn how to be constantly and invisibly armed so that any person trying deception or cheating ploys against you instantly becomes powerless and at your mercy.
They still haven’t asked for my personal information yet, so now I’m just wondering when Satan will be expecting my soul.
Anyhew, this whole letter pretty much violates what 99.9% of all secret societies are about, so it must be true, I can’t WAIT to get my new powers, FOR ABSOFREAKINLUTELY FREE! THIS IS GONNA ROCK! WOOOOOOO!!!!
I recieved the same AMAZING FREE offer. unbelievable
ReplyDeletedont know how to use html tags but I got the letter today and found your site on the net along with their site. Thank you for the info. I figured it was a scam or some type. I am 82 and am certainly not in phase to or any other phase of my life. Thanks again for the info.
ReplyDeleterecieve the same letter in the mail of course, the emhasis put on the work FREE of course nothing is every free, for those of us who are looking for miracles this letter is far from that. It seemed more scarey than anthing else also as the devil himself had written it. My belives are and always be of a heavely and spiritual nature so when there is no mention of the father and his angles, there can be no mirales, no hope and no life.
ReplyDeleteI recieved the same letter. I was sceptical, but was in a vulenerable state and was hoping that somehow it would be true. I was so hopeful that I didn't pay a couple of bills just to get in this club.i couldn't wait to recive all the info I could get.
ReplyDeleteOf course, they sent the letter in time to be able to send off for the orinetation book, the big black book,and the letter for the reservation to the first meeting which has to be faxed by a certain date.naturally it arrives a week late. it starts off positive w/ the statement of how they have power thought my future and they see and my family attend. if they were so powerful with their powerthinking skills, you would think they see the letter would arrive too late,and as it stated at the end of the letter, that if the invitation wasn't faxed by a certain date,it would all end now.
Needless to say, I was really disappointed. the reason they want it to be secret is because they don't want anyone to tell us what idiots we are to give them our money and is all a big scam. what's even worse, I sent the letter to be faxed a few min before finding this site online.
sure wish I could have at least obtained the other books to read for kicks! well, at least I learned time managent like "Mr. Hamilton" and that does work. But it wasn't worth over $100. the thought of when the devil was coming for my soul entered my mind a couple of times..a lesson well learned, but could have had that money for bills. Wonder if the better business bureau knows of this scam? thanks for verifying what my guts were telling me!
they put a great deal of time and energy in that book with all the information, NO WONDER THEY ARE MILLIONAIRES---getting our money from people that fall for their BULLSH--!!!!
so glad for your sight. I got their letter twice. I sent them letters back both times telling them to do their homework better and they would have known that I'm flat broke. The second time I heard from them, the orientation book was worded differently.I wrote back the second time that if they had chosen me, then someone could sponsor me,then when I make the money they claim,I'll pay my sponsor back. Still haven't heard back yet!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThank you for this site. I too have recieved the same "unbelievable" letters. My gut told me othewise but I thought "what the &$%#" so I sent for the first book. What amazed me was the fact that they claimed EVERYTHING that I would need to know and EVERY secret would be revealed in that book. Only to find a couple of weeks later that no, those secrets would be in the "next" book. Or maybe in the one after that. I wonder how much more I would be out before I found these "ancient secrets". Unfortunately I fell for the first one but I value my hard earned cash and don't intend to part with it so easily twice. What amazes me still is they deny faith so vehemently only to basically ask us to send money on the same faith that they deny. If it doesn't exist than why should we trust it to them? Again thank you for helping me to "truly" see the light.
ReplyDeletegood lord, I think I'm gonna start a Nouveautech support group, this is insane.
ReplyDeleteAppreciate you putting up this site
ReplyDeleteI just got the letter too...
it's scared the beegeezus out of me
now that I've read your site..
Got the same letter, had two days to respond, I did. Hoping that something could change my life. guess what, it did, I am even more skeptical now. never sent any money, at 53 I am only now entering phase two of my life.
ReplyDeleteSometime's I even forget the saying (It sounds to good to be true?) Or at least to happen to me?
ReplyDeleteYou know what I mean...
this is the biggest bullshit i've ever herd. but they are find a poor person without no money no hope and use hi or her feed them lies. maybe nouveau tech members are rich stealing money from people
ReplyDeletepeople like them should not be around normal people wipe your ass with your books full of secret's
Thank God for your site, almost??? considered this scam. This is considered as "abuse of the elderly" where I come from......needs to be checked out!
ReplyDeletethis paper is a load of shit. After reading it, i put this letter where it needed to go, in the trash!
ReplyDeleteMy husband got the very same letter. He's in the military and ummm well, ya know. Anyway, i skipped around was bored by the first few paragraphs and decided to check them out. Wellll this was the first site that came up, so I clicked and read. I totally agree, it's crap... I mean, only a two day response? Paaallleeaasse, we get better offers for credit cards... lol
ReplyDeleteThe 1st letter I got from them, I didn't respond..bud did keep the letter (for awhile, bur finally just threw it away. Today, (2/21) I got another "follow-up" letter "confidenial and private for "my name" only.
ReplyDeleteIt basically gives me ONE more chance ( to know all the "secrets",if I respond within 4 days). Then at the bottom of it, is the price ($135.50 +$4.45 s&H = tl $139.95) to send.
I thought...I'm looking for this "secret society" on the web...thats when I found your site.
It confirms what I thought. THis letter and secret society is balogny! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!
Thanks!
gthe worst isn't the money, the morst is that they want you to put their way to think in first place and let GOD behind, where's all the knowledge they claim to have? must exist a GOD to do everything we can see and have, even our own life. what can they do by themselves? nothing. so GOD's the unique and powerful being in the whole universe. where they wanna lead us? to the wrong way. who are they serving to? you know who.
ReplyDeletethats lame
ReplyDeletei am taking these fuckers down! if anyone else is with me on this just post a few comments stating you want to see there ass hung up on a hook for everyone to see! i will furnish you with my personal e-mail address to get this started!!
ReplyDeleteIF THERE IS A 2300 YEAR OLD MANUSCRIPT, YOU CAN PROBABLY GET A COPY AT THE LIBRARY.... AND BY THE WAY, THE BIBLE IS JUST ABOUT THAT AGE. MAY BE THAT THE BOOK THEY ARE REFERRING TO. lOTS OF ANSWERS TO PROBLEMS CAN BE FOUND THERE INFOMATION ABOUT PROSPERITY AS WELL...
ReplyDeleteLet's assemble a anti-Nouveau Tech posse',round 'em up and publicly flog them for praying on good people with hopes for a better life, huh? who's with me?
ReplyDeleteJust reaad the nouveau tech letter, must be really bored I thought about responding, thanx for the internet and shared information.
ReplyDeleteI say, read my Pax Neo-TeX. It's actually free. :-B
ReplyDeleteI want to see these assholes taken down, Thank God I found this site, I was actually thinking about sending the freaking money!!! Luckily, I did what any american would do and looked it up on the net Thank God for Internet!!!
ReplyDeleteI got this offer to but did not read it until 10 days to late. I sent them a respons to see what they say.So far I'm in it for one stamp. I will let yous know what they come back with.
ReplyDeleteYea they came back w/the offer to pay I think 139.95? Well I guese I was not to late. I responded 10 days to late to the 1st letter. Go figure.
ReplyDeletealmost made an ass of myself.i am a hardworking mechanic who's fairly intelligent and am used to figuring out what's wrong and this shit is very wrong
ReplyDeleteI know how they found me! Through
ReplyDeletemy criminal record,two drunk driving arrests,etc.I have been having a spiritual experience;
Jack Daniels, Budweiser,etc..
I fell for another scam,
once, the guy claimed to guarantee me a business loan,just
send $250! I found out he later ended up in federal prison.
This is like one of those glorified chain letters...
R.E Hudson Texas
This 'group' if it can be called that, has been around for years, preying on the disenfranchised, vulnerable, and desperate folk out in the world. They are found in a number of countries and are interested in being in control. I encountered them in the early 1980s.
ReplyDeleteIf you read the literature they send, it is quite unnerving. There is a pathological hatred of anything spiritual. This is a fear-based group.
You want to truly weigh what they are saying with what you already know to be true and see for yourself if there is any truth in them. I personally think that what they offer is a mixture of truth and lies, clothed in a seductive outer layer that promises everything from true love, to massive wealth, to unlimited power over others. Balderdash...
Yep-thanks for your site.I fell for the first installment as I was sooo stupid and unfortunately curious.Amazing the power of suggestion as after reading their first letter I did have three really good things happen.So off I went and parted with my money.The book I received is disturbing to say the least.Then what followed was a barage of chainmail letters and offers from every charlatan and scam artist on the planet, which made me feel really violated somehow.Yuck.Thanks for spreading the word-these people are really scum.
ReplyDeleteI received this letter today from Nouveautech. After reading, the only thing that came to my mind is the movie Skulls about a secret society over hundred year old, that give power and wealth to those that are selected by the members. I am 51 years old, I can tell you that you do not get something for nothing, there a a catch for everything Free. I am very glad I found your web site.
ReplyDeletei got the letter today aand for a second i thought i really had some special powers. maybe ...
ReplyDeleteluckily i googled it and found ur site. i have been laughing so loud as i read the experiences of similar folks. these guys are scum perfect for a gas chamber,
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ReplyDeleteWhether it's true or not, The term life cycles (whichever number you may be in) do exist. I haven't read the discovery book but have read other books of wallace and other philosophers. Basically it's the teaching of theosophy. Unfortuantely, upon their letter and orientation booklet, it would never be guessed nor would any of his teachiings be respected by some of you. In his teachings, It's basically quantum physics. The universe, cosmos, theirs no you or I because we are one etc etc. Gravity units are knowing consciousness therefore examining the "cycle of life" you may be in. And blah blah blah. I love this kind of stuff whether I believe in it or not, I'm intrigued by astronomy, philosophy and any other universe type stuff.
ReplyDeleteBrett Warren: No.
ReplyDelete* * *
LadyD:
"Whether it's true or not, The term life cycles [...] do exist."
Whether square circles are real or not, the term "square circle" exists. So what?
"Basically it's the teaching of theosophy. Unfortuantely, [...] nor would any of his teachiings be respected by some of you. [...] It's basically quantum physics. [...] blah blah blah"
You see, if those "teachings" are so vague to the point of content-freeness, so vague that you can claim that they're "basically" theosophy and they're also "basically" quantum physics... then I think that's a pretty good reason why these "teachings" aren't being respected.
Magnolia got it right: these "Nouveau-Tech Society" folks are a bunch of out-and-out liars who just want people to buy their useless books of "secrets".
jane said;
ReplyDeletei to got this letter from an order of books i bought from kevin Trudeau (natural cures) so stupid me fax it back free free free besides what it cost me to fax it and low and behold i got the 57 page bunch of sh--,the greatest kept secret of all time now they want $139.95 to get the actual secret so i to can become rich and fullfilled in my intire life ha ha ha they should send me the money as payment for having to read this bullsh-- im so glad i put those words in the computer and got this page cause i just might have fallen for it thank you again jane in new jresey.
The first letter talk about a man Kevin meeting the Las Vegas gambler; the next booklet talk about the same incident same words only Jeffifer is person they talk about. Did Kevin turn into a woman??
ReplyDeletewhat a load of crap! those fuckers should be taken down. i can't believe i wasted 10 minutes reading Kirsten Hart's words of wisdom or should i say TOTAL BULLSHIT! if i were to fax them anything it definitely wouldn't be their stupid invitation, it would be "you can take your greatest kept secret of all time and shove it!"
ReplyDeleteOn June 26, 2007 I received the same 7-page letter in the mail. Nouveautech wasn't mentioned at all. I thought, "what the heck, this is a curious letter", and I didn't mind waisting a stamp so I mailed in my reply by their deadline, Friday, June 29, 2007. Yesterday, July 10, 2007 I received a 56 page booklet in the mail -- still no mention of Nouveautech, but only "The Secret Society" was mentioned. After reading the 56 pages I decided I had been baited enough in their first letter and had been wasting my time reading their second mailing with the 56 page booklet, so I googled "2300-year-old secrets" and got your web site. Thanks for the info.
ReplyDeleteTHIS IS JUST PLAIN SCAREY READING ALL THESE COMMENTS!DON'T KNOW WHY I DIDN'T GO WITH MY FIRST IMPRESSION.I'M SO EMBARASSED TO THINK I FELL FOR THIS.THEY NEED TO BE EXPOSED.I'M ALL FOR TAKING THEM DOWN.....WHAT A CON!!!!
ReplyDeleteI got the same offer and deadlines for "the greatest kept secret of all time" which they promised was a "personal letter" just for me, not mass mailing, sent first class...sent in and received my 'free' membership invitation...installment number one of two "the secret society orientation booklet" with 5 amazing stories about moeny, love, and being discovered that will change your life...it promises that the secret is in the booklet but for 135.50+4.45 s/h=139.95 (with the 43% discount, originally $240) I can have it all spelled out for me in a 1200 page packet and within 10 minutes 12 major good things will happen to me in the fist 72 hourse...Thanks for the heads up on this elaborate scam.
ReplyDeleteI'm a 54 yr old ol'dollie. In phase one of my life, I've survived bleeding brain aneurysims, open-heart surgery, heart attacks and a mini stroke. Thanks to your site, my phase 2 has survived the scam for the hopelessly optimistic! Many thanks!
ReplyDeletedid anybody actually BUY the book? Im just wondering if u did what was it about?
ReplyDeleteI received the letter. I had trouble with the, "Oh, you are so special stuff." They are trying to appeal to your ego which is what immediately made me leary of them. I was disappointed to see Kevin Trudeau associated with it. Maybe he is not and they have just used his picture and signature. I get so sick of people trying to scam innocent people. People have to be very wary of anything they receive in the mail, over the phone or anything they become involved with. Research, research, research! Unfortunately the crooks have made trust become a thing of the past.
ReplyDeleteI am with you on wanting to take these jokers down. I got the letter in the mail and just for pure amusement, I faxed my request for my "free" manual which would reveal the "secret". A couple weeks later, I received this pamphlet with 4 stories of how all this wonderful stuff happened to these characters just from reading this ancient 2300 year old manuscript. I cracked up laughing all the way through. At the end of the pamphlet you're asked to send in $139 to get parts 3 and 4 of the "secret 1200 page manual that's 2300 years old". I bet the secret to their success is the idiots who send in the $139 to fund their evil little scam. That's why they're all so happy in life, because they're making all this money from the people who send in their $139. That's the secret in this manual...screw people out of money and you'll be rich!!
ReplyDeleteremember HOPE SELLS
ReplyDeleteThe Noueau Tech Society is a lead in to the Illuminati, a secret society with quite a sordid and diobolical history and mindset. If you care to do some research, go ahead and google the Illuminati and see what you come up with...it will 'enlighten' you. Also take a look at the neo-tech testimonial website. The pages upon pages of letters tell stories about down and outers who suddently now are filled with light, happiness and all understanding. To me,they sound totally brainwashed. Comment after comment tells how they abandoned their former 'wasted society' and 'religion' - particularly Christianity, old friendships, etc. as they have now seen the light of the nouveau tech society. Rather, they appear as primarily a group of confused and lost individuals who are excited to be told what to think by a 'new' organization - something different. It smacks of its own religion, which is obviously out to secure as many new 'followers' as possible with their enticing promise of riches, happiness, and the ego-boosting message of 'you're special - we WANT you.' I know, because I received their letter as well. Amazing how many 'special' and gifted people are out there being specifically sought by the nouveau tech society - when I read the testimonials it strikes me that most of their converts weren't anything much but confused and lost people looking for a way out of boring job or meanless relationships. All I can say is, proceed with caution. Especially if you cherish your ability to think for yourself.
ReplyDeleteI got the "Letter" today, and was curious, so looked up terms Secret Association, 2300 year, etc. Got several things to read including your site. Has anyone out there heard anything on Oprah about this? Here awhile back, I past the T.V. and heard her say something about knowing what the "Secret" was...when we come back...but, I missed the end of the show. Thank you for your site and info. The secret must be: "there is a fool born every minute", and "a fool and his money is soon departed", and "do unto others before they do unto you". There are three secrets right there! Trudau also sells books, and in one of them talked about being in the Association or Secret Society. The founder of Nouveautech is a writer of books and publisher of them also, What better way to sell them. I don't think Oprah has them in her book club or endorses them. I also wonder where they got my profile??? Thanks for listening, and I hope this helps someone else. Smashing a statue of Christ, and against Christianity was all it took for me to decide to trash it and them.
ReplyDeleteYou know people, Nouveau teck has never said anything negative about you. All I have ever heard, or read is that they believe in you .Yes they preach there is no god . But think about this, if you put all that belief in yourself that you put in god. Where could you go. There is no limit to the heights you could grow. And by the way if you where a true Christian you would never talk of harming another human being physically or financially . And even if you tried to take down nouveau tech You would not succeed because you are not smart enough. Remember this if their was a god why did 20 people from a catholic school including 4 sisters die in a fiery bus crash in Europe. Stop being lame people.
ReplyDeleteIve got the same letter to so i think we need to take them down email me and tell me where we start.Im 28 and hate shit like this get you all happy and then take your money.
ReplyDeletei got 4 letters from the SSE, i follow ed ever detail to the t the forth letter contained a price 140$ i paid it nnow im wiating lets see what happens
ReplyDeleteive read alot of people, want to bust these guys ,but no one has got riped off yet, cause they all either, threw it out, our didnt have the money, so i paid the 140$ now,soon we will all now the question we have been lookin for, is this real
ReplyDeleteI to recieved this letter. It's seem so many people long to hear the words your special. Everyone wants to be in on the secret. Amazing enough we recieved that secret is we are suckers for a good compliment and the word free. We belong to a exclusive suckers membership.
ReplyDeleteOh man. Thank God for Google. I got that letter in the mail today, and being a 21 yr old who's a little on the broke side and trying to buy her first house, I ate up EVERY WORD. But, to air on the side of caution, I thought I'd try and do some research before faxing my membership acceptance. And again, thank you starter-of-this-web-post. Keep fighting the good fight. WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT.
ReplyDelete-Megan, Michigan
I just received my second letter today. I thought the first one was creepy and had no intention of answering. The second made me feel stalked. I wondered how they got my name, but not long after receiving the first letter, junk mail starting rolling in about every natural remedy known to man. I had purchased an herbal supplement for my husband and I believe they used this info to wear out my poor mailman. I intend on doing the same to this as the first....shredder, here I come! Thanks for this site.
ReplyDeleteHMMM...Secrets...Secret Society...Late night talk show host named Kevin...Lost thirty pounds.....Powers to make you rich, lose wait and attract wealth...HMMMM...sounds like Kevin Trudeau is the common thread here. I might be willing to wager that we all have purchased something from this "common denominator". This is a guy who has successfully assembled some very true and helpful information that any effort of research will uncover. He puts it all together and presents it with lots of soap box brash, pomp and self importance. Like the Wizard of Oz, he wants you to ignore the man behind the curtain, because he really doesn't have any real powers that you and
ReplyDeleteI don't already possess. God has designed in each and everyone of us the ability to overcome and rise above our circumstance. Kevin is preying on those who are looking for the key that unlocks the chains that we have forged with our own hands. We, as people have a very difficult time accepting our own accountability for the mess we have made. And believe me when I say I am no different than you. I was deep in debt with taxes owed and credit cards out of control. But what I have realized and find re-enforced in reading through these posts is...we are all looking for some one to bail us out. Well, there ain't no short cuts. It's going to take time and concerted effort to make things different my friends. The only Wizard is Yahweh and the yellow brick road is Yahshua.
Seek Him first and all other things will be granted unto you. I'm not talking about religion. I am referencing a relationship.
If a person can understand that they are the author of there circumstance, then they will find the key to unlock what chain keeps them from peace and happiness. I know I needed a Christ to deal with my own self inflicted reality. Maybe you do too?
Kevin Truduea
I got this same letter and within a few lines I was cracking up.So for a joke I got my eight and twelve yr old sons and told them that a few years back a fortune teller told me I would receive a special letter and that this was it.I then proceeded to read the entire letter with much feigned excitement.When I was done I looked at my boys and my eight year said very seriously"Dad, that whole thing sounds like a lie and I dont think you should believe it.And I don,t believe that fortune teller either." From the mouth of babes....
ReplyDeleteToday is April 14-2008. I received the same letter in the mail. When I read this letter I made my research and found your site. Thank you very much, you have protected me from scam.
ReplyDeleteToday is April, 21 2008 and I received this letter also telling me how special I was and that I possessed special rare traits blah blah blah I was laughing hysterically by the second paragraph, so I decided to do my research on the net and found your site. I would have never sent the invitation back but someone would and has so thanks for your site.
ReplyDeleteFolks - this letter is definitely a scam. I know because I am one of those poor blokes who sent this turkey some of my hard earned cash only to find that the material is recycled 19th century motivational b**ls**t. Not only that, but the leech had the nerve to send me MORE letters claiming that ANOTHER, more powerful book would be printed for me - a personalized edition. I said, go ahead, print it. But then I did not send the money. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing they spent some time and money they can't recover.
ReplyDeleteWow that's amazing I received the same letter and I too possess these same spacial and rare traits... Has anyone out there actually responded to this letter? And if so what happened?
ReplyDeleteI am so special in fact that I have created a new way to spell special: spacial.
ReplyDeletewell i received the letter also yesterday 7/7/08. i read the 56 page orientation book trying to figure out a special meaning. To tell you the truth I really believed it and i am an educated middle aged woman. Today I felt inspired like I knew there was something more for me, I was in a good mood and felt happy.
ReplyDeleteThen i got a flat tire. The tires are brand new. So even in the inconvenience I was staying positive, thinking how lucky I was to at least be local and be able to get it fixed.
Still inspired this evening, i decided to research this secret society. I was really going to send the money for the manuscript!
I feel sort of foolish but you know, there is nothing wrong with believing there is more out there for you. I still do.
Hi there, Im glad I found this site through Google. I too have received the first letter for the free 56 page book and just finished reading it and noticed the two page letter that came with it that wanted me to pay that $139 amount for the supposed second installment. But the funny thing is that after reading that first book most of the five stories the people who had got that "Inside Secrets" 1200 page manuscript had received it from another person. They didnt pay for it so why should I. I think Im gonna humor them by writing a letter stating that and more. Im a homemaker so I have the time to waste to make a point for alll of us that are receiving this same scam. We are not fools and I will let them know that. I read the first page of comments and I agree with one about exposing these guys. Im in the every situation they mention in the letters and first book. Who isnt right? I mean arent we all lower and middle class people struggling to survive?! I know I am but they are the fools if they think they are gonna get money from me. It was reading material for me to read but thats why I had to goole it because I too think that was too good to be true. And it is. But now that Im finished Im gonna toss it and move on to reading something else because at least reading is good for everyone. Right? Makes for good conversations.That sucks for those that actually spent that much money on a book that didnt do anything but make them poorer. Id have to be as rich as them to think of wasting such money. 25/f/cali!
ReplyDeleteToday is July 21, 2008. Just like everyone else I was entertained by the letter but knew something was fishy. I mean everyone is unique is some way and we all have our own abilities. We don't need some secret society to tell us who we are. They don't know us from deep within. They don't know how we have struggled and all the ish we been through. What they might know is that we are struggling so they use that against us. To make us struggle more. They take one factor and use it for their benefit.
ReplyDeleteI'm not faxing or mailing anything. Because I know deep in my heart that there is a God and I know that I will make it in this world. I don't need a secret society to tell me I'm special. I don't need to spend $139 and I definitely don't need something that's just gonna take away your money, faith, and hope. Cause in the end the real secret is... that they were laughing every time they received money from people. You guys wanna know a secret: I was one of the founders of this society back in high school where this all started. It started as a quick way to get money for us. And now, they've taken it a bit too far. You wanna know another secret: I'm not really one of the founders but I am a good story teller LOlz. And I bet thats how the real story started: as a prank. Now they're taking this too far. DO NOT GET SCAMMED. You wanna read a book with the REAL GREAT SECRETS, take some time and read the Bible even if you don't like religion. I can bet all my money that you will learn so much more from the Bible than from some secret society out to take your money. PLUS: The Bible is free and anybody who really wanted you to be happy and live with riches wouldn't make you have to pay for it. So, thanx so much for this site. And I'm all for taking these guys down. But letz do it the right way. If you guyz wanna make some money and no I won't lie its not entirely free but itz worth a try, you can check out my website: www.johnnyrivera.ws
So, far I only pay $10 a month and I'm making money with this system. Or, you can have fun and join something free like yuwie lolz
http://ww1.yuwie.com/yuwie.asp?r=552505
ONCE AGAIN, DON'T GET SCAMMED =]
July 2008 I got the letter too. Good old Google eventually lead me to this site, then http://www.neo-techsociety.com/myaccount/library/paxbxxx/index.html
ReplyDeleteand http://thesocietyofsecrets.com/secretmeetings/default2.aspx
which give you an eerie taste for how weird these people are. They talk in circles, but never seem to end up anywhere. Too much philosophy and too little wisdom.
July 29, 2008.
ReplyDeleteI am so glad I did my research. I am sooo glad I found this website. I also fell for the first letter. I couldn't sleep at all after reading the 56 page book. It is so hard to believe that there are people out there that pray on good people. Thank you for having this site.
Doesn't anyone know proper English, or know how to type? Check your spelling before you post a comment folks! I received more laughs from everyone's comments, than I did from the 56-page booklet my dad received in the mail. Yes, they sure do take advantage of elders, but didn't get any of my dad's money though.
ReplyDeleteAh, yes, you WILL get a FREE pamphlet if you respond with a request for the FREE pamphlet. They knew I deserved it after reading my "profile". (What profile, my CIA dossier?)
ReplyDeleteAnyway,the FREE pamphlet contains five more stories, including one about the guy who lost everything, then while sitting on a park bench with his head in his hands, happened to spot a sunfaded 1200 page manual under the bench, which contained... you guessed it! The world's best-kept secret!
Another story tells of the person who read the manuscript, then had a euphoric 10-second epiphany that he calls "The 10-second Miracle" which gave him everything he had ever dreamed of in life. But one day, he found himself losing ground financially, romantically, etc., and discovered that he had accidentally "disconnected" himself from the 10-second miracle. Luckily, he got reconnected and again has everything...
Another describes a guy who flies into a rage and is about to punch his son in the face, only to have a magnanimous soul thrust the manual into his hand, changing his life forever after he sobbed his apologies to his boy, re-establishing their relationship.
So this "World's best-kept secret" manual is floating around under park benches, and is being handed indiscriminately to guys with a violent temper... but in my case, I'm receiving the opportunity to own it after exhausting research and finding that I was SPECIAL! Yeah, right.
Oh, did I tell you that this secret manuscript will only cost me $149.00? And that I only have until Friday to order it, or I'll never be able to possess it at any price? And that purchasing the manuscript will grant me the opportunity to attend this group's secret meetings and conventions and parties and... but the cost of attending those functions is never mentioned.
This scam is actually pretty clever. It flatters the recipient, it makes them think they are extraordinary in some way, it makes them think they are one of a chosen few, it makes them feel as if they are invited into a private club, all those things that folks with low self-esteem crave.
I, being the egomaniac that I am, do not crave that level of stroking. I mean, I do like to be stroked, but I hate being lied to. So I will pass, thank you very much.
And I strongly recommend that you pass on it also, unless of course, you feel so generous as to spend the $149.00 and share the contents of the manual with the rest of us.
I'm sure we all can use another good laugh.
Thanks, everyone for helping spread the word about this scam.
I have read many letters and have never seen one person actually get to the point of receiving the actual 1200 page book that de-codes the secret. There are thousands of articles that say they stopped there. can one person say they sent the 139.00 and know that what they received is a scam? or are those that did actually rich and now cant expose the results.. good question.
ReplyDeleteI was on my way to the post office to send for my $139.00 manuscript of secrets, when I came across all of your comments!! Thanks for stopping me!! I feel so stupid! by the way, they don't hone in only on the elderly, I'm 38.
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous July 2008 who so graciously posted two web addresses...Thank you! I received a letter yesterday. No mention of Nouveautech, etc. But all of the postings concerning the letter contain the same elements as my letter does, except that I can receive a 56 page numbered booklet "completely free of charge". But I need to postmark my "acceptance" or fax it on or before Friday, 10/31/08 or "After this Friday, I understand that this opportunity closes, and I won't be given this membership opportunity again." I wasn't planning on doing it, but thought I would Google it because I am naturally curious (maybe one of my "special" traits :) ) and came across this site. So, I looked into the two websites mentioned. For me, very scary stuff. Besides....I don't want to be in a "secret" society. If I could find something that promised all that this letter did, then I would want to spread the word and help us all, especially these days! I may not be in the best of financial situations right now, but there are so many, many more people much worse off than I am. And I am supposed to keep something so 'extraordinary' to myself? I don't think so. Besides, most successful people don't keep it to themselves, either. They share their knowledge, etc. to help others, to mentor others.
ReplyDeleteSo, if you haven't checked out the websites, mentioned, please do so. Very interesting, and for me unsettling.
I guess I will just keep sending in my Publisher's Clearinghouse stuff:)
Thanks everyone for your comments. God bless. Things will turn around! Stay well.
man this is some good stuff I mean this website that is. I received my letter today. And just like some of you others I also wanted to believe this crap. I kind of knew that this was some kind of a scam seening as though I've had several scam attempts in the past year. I think this people and others like them should be a shame of their selves, I mean with the economy being in the shape that it is now we should all try to work together and maybe we can all prosper. Well I would like to thank the person who started this website because this is some very useful information. And with everyone who has posted their comments it is much more helpful to the people who still my think that this is the real deal. Well all I have to say to those is Godspeed and Good Luck but if they do their research like some of us they will see that they are not alone. To everyone God Bless and Change is coming then there wouldn't be a need for such shanagans as these. Obama 08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteHere is a way to put these Nouveau-tech con artists out of business: I would be willing to just scan the entire book that someone put up their hard earned $139 for and host the thing on the internet so anyone that finds this sight could could avail themselves of the link to the scanned book and and read it or print it out to their hearts content. I have already obtained the part 1 booklet 3 times now over the past 10 years. You may recall in the introductory letter that they say you will only be contacted once in your lifetime by these folks. So far they are out first class postage to me for 3 small booklet packages and 3 initial letters because I would not send them a dime. The current name they go under as if 11-12-2008 is the "Society of Secrets" and their current response (where you send you money or credit card info) address is: P.O. Box 6305, Dover, DE 19905-6305. The address given for the actual organization is:no name given, 3357H Southpark Place, Grove City, Ohio, 43123. A phone number is given on the response page of 775-412-6016. I will begin to scan the little 55 page booklet and host up on the internet for all to see. I do not fear any copyright infridgement proceedings against me as I suspect that these folks would not want to appear in court to have the light of day focused on their conman scheme. If someone wants to provide their $139 part II book I would be willing to scan it and host it online and even make some DVD copies of the finished file for distribution that way.
ReplyDeleteO my God I am so happy I found this site I was just about to mail my letter out I made me think too why would they send me a letter I'm only 15 thank god I found this site ,and what profile were they talking about of mine?
ReplyDeleteJudging by how many of you seemed genuinely excited when you received the letter I really doubt Nouveaucrap is gonna go out of business anytime soon. I mean lookit, whether it be to expose their scam or receive their "powers" there are obviously folks out there forking over cash. Honestly, they've got a great scam going on here, preying on the wishful thinking of other people has always been a lucrative business. Where can I buy some stock?
ReplyDeletefu*k these mothersuckers they dont know anything i recieved it and said free money nothing to lose until they sent to me the second one and put pay139.99 f that money for written ways to make money i think ill stay with the money i cAN SEE NOT THE ONE I HOPE ONE DAY I WILL SEE?
ReplyDeleteThese God Damn fucking idiotic jerks. I think I should expose them.
ReplyDeleteyes! yes! expose them! blow the lid right off the whole thing! huzzah! but first you need to buy twelve copies of their program so that you can post it all over the internet! get at it!
ReplyDeletei sent for the 56 page booklet knowing that the hook was coming in that second letter...well it was, and it will only cost me $140. So, that's when i did my research. It is definitely a crock. if you want to know what's really going on and has been for most of humanity, read "the gods of eden" by william bramley (available free online) It will reveal to you the secrets of the "brotherhood" and those who prey on our fears. Throughout history, the secret societies of the world have played both sides of every conflict. It's true, we create our own reality and mostly we are to blame for falling for every war, conflict and political belief going. I don't have a problem with religion as long as it discriminates against nobody. The spirit is real...it's the energy we expend in our actions, inactions and interactions. We have created this reality and we can turn it around because we instinctively know what we need to do to make things right. Don't hate. Understand we are all related and share common ancestors...all 6,500,000,000+ of us. So why harbor hate for our family of man? take care of your own, take care of yourselves. and don't buy into ANY bullshit, including the hope for change that is on the agenda no matter who won the election. Prophecy is being fulfilled because conspirators are making it happen by creating that reality. don't let them.
ReplyDeleteif they supouse to know how to make a lot of money , why the hell do they need to sell this secret? is it that they need more money? hope they go to jail or something...
ReplyDeleteOK, OK....I'm gonna order the f@#&in' book. I know it is probably a scam, I doubt I will get mey money back, but I just wanna see what they actually will send. I will then post my review of what's actually in the book...just so everyone will know.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to use a money order as I don't want to give out my CC#.
This should be interesting. Wish me luck!
IM ALREADY A MILLIONAIRE!!!!!! i got the letter too! i own two strip joints in vegas! i dont need their secrets1 here's mine...FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletetake what you want. forget the rest.
Crap I really wanted to be a MILLIONAIRE over night o well guess i cant drop out of college back to the books for me darn.....
ReplyDeleteThis is a load of crap!!!!!! And they don't just go after the elderly, I'm twenty.
ReplyDeletei recieved the letter and i bought the big book for 140 dollars and now 5 weeks latter im a millionare i got all the women i can handle my wife doesnt even no she is under my love spell i can tell any one any thing and the will beleave me i drive 100 mph every where i go in my new crossfire call the cop never stop me i now live right by the beach last week for scrapen the coast (a car show) my car came in first i had sex with 3 women at the same time right after haveing dinner with my wife this is the best thing iv ever done every day getts better and better im glad im not selling used cars any more
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ReplyDeleteThis is funny. I sent in the 140 bucks knowing that this could be a scam, but thought what the heck. But still waiting for the book. By the way, they said 3 good things will happen to you after you read the first FREE pamplet, then I blacked out after not drinking very much, my cat ran away, and I got in a fight with some friends. When do the good things happen???
ReplyDeleteThe booklet refers to the secret being a 10 second secret ... so why does it take a 1200 page manuscript to get a 10 second result. That alone should have told you what it was worth.
ReplyDeleteCheck the name Kevin Trudeau or do a search on ripoffreport.com for him or this scam.
ReplyDeleteToday is Dec 16, 2009. I’m reading comments (that I appreciate to the nth degree) that are not dated and seem to be years old. Perhaps as old as the “SeekRatsOciety” itself. Even if they did let you in, you’d have to become what they are. Rats.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit, it’s one of the best cons I’ve seen. Flattery is one thing, but for them to know and understand what I already know deep down inside about myself is amazing! For them to perceive that I am the greatest (potential) guy alive makes them even greater than I and deserving of my respect. After all, I know already what they have discovered, but they give it terminology so I can see and use it to realize my own potential. Fantastic! Why, heck, I’ve forgotten these very things about myself and need to be reminded. In fact, I’ve forgotten more than they’ll ever know and my knowledge must have floated back in time through the cosmos and ended up right there in that 2300-year-old manuscript they unearthed. (So, if you want real help, send me your money instead.)
And whether they be of God or not is so well disguised, being subtly inferred rather than claimed outright. Establishing this whole mystery about it actually gives it some credence. May God bless Anonymous the others looking at the faith superficially who actually lend credibility to the scam. If it did work, it would work as it is laid out in the first come on. Brilliant approach. My golf shots should be so good.
Thank God I spotted a couple of holes in their ‘testimony.’ First to catch my attention was “This is a personal letter just to you…” compared with “Some of you may feel the same way right now.” at the bottom of page 2. Next, it being a secret society (“…my lawyer will not let me reveal my name,…”), it must be that “Du Pont,” “ de Nemours & Co,” “ Brandywine and Chestnut Run Laboratories,” “Poker, A Guaranteed Income For Life,” “Warner Books,” “359 pages,” “Kevin,” and “John” must’ve just slipped out (pretty careless for someone trying to keep a secret).
You could drive a Semi through the holes in this scam, or . . .
. . . is it God calling you beyond the elements of human frailty displayed? After all, they cannot be avoided as long as we don this robe of flesh. There are always doubts to be overcome . . . or stumble over. Maybe this is our letter of calling and we only need the faith to see it through. Money is the #1 stumbling block around and could easily keep us from our destiny if we clutch it so tightly. Ah, but who has so great a faith to let their money go into such an investment?
Hey – do you suppose they’ll let me write for them?
I'm reading my letter right now and the first book, which is the second time I've gotten it.
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ReplyDeleteSome college kid with way to much time on his or her hands. The letter is way to long and it reminds me of a college paper.
ReplyDeleteI got the 56 page booklet. I'm international. It took a while to get here but I have only till tomorrow to get the money back to Las Vegas..
ReplyDeleteSmelled Horseshit. Googled. Am here. NOW realise that it's the very same scam I fell for Thirty years ago. I still have the 680 page 'manual' somewhere. I'll dig it out.
Nouveautech!!!!! Close to 'Trudeautech'. How'd he get his money?
Jes' askin'.
Want help to take 'em apart? I'm in. Don't know how much I can help from here, but talk to me.
WE JUST FINISHED READING ALL OF THE POSTINGS ON THIS SITE. WE WILL SHARE THIS WITH YOU, A SCAM IS SOMETHING THAT YOU PAY FOR AND BELIEVE YOU HAVE RECIEVED "NOTHING" FOR YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. BUT IF YOU DRAW A CONCLUSION, OR NEW WAY TO LOOK AT YOURSELF OR BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE GAINED OR CREATED A QUESTION THAT WOULD INSTILL DIFFERENT THOUGHTS OR IDEAS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SCAMED.YOU MAY NOT JUSTIFY THE PRICE. 2300 YEAR OLD MANUCRIPTS =/- ARE PLENTIFUL. THE UNDERLYING BELIEVE IS IN "YOURSELF", WHAT ONE CAN DO WITH "POSITIVE THOUGHT" THE POWER OF THE UNIVERSE
ReplyDeleteTHAT EACH OF US CAN TAP IS VERY POWERFULL, IT HAS WORKED FOR US IN EVERYTHING WE DO AND HAVE DONE IN OUR LIVES. THERE ARE CHANGES TO OURSELVES AND TO YOUR PLANET THAT "WE ALL SHARE" OUR BELIEF ON THIS IS NOT RELIGOUS, THAT IS PESONAL TO EACH OF YOU. SET ASIDE THE "GET RICH QUICK" THOUGHTS AND TAKE WHAT A MORE OPEN MINDED APPROCH, COMBINE THAT WITH OTHER ANCIENT TEXT I.E. SUMMERIANS,OLMEC,EYGPTIAN,MYAN ONLY THEN WILL IT COME TO LITE IN YOUR MIND OF SOME OF THE POSITVE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF IT. DO NOT GO THROUGH LIVE WITH "BLINDERS ON" YEARS AGO WE SAID TO OUR FREINDS THAT YOUR EARTH WILL EXPERIENCE MORE EATHQUAKES,FLOODS AND MAN MADE DISASTERS...NEED I SAY MORE. LOOK AROUND. WE AMAZED HOW FEW PEOPLE WE MEET KNOW ABOUT THE EARTHS CYCLICAL EVENTS AND HOW TO PREPARE FOR THEM. THESE BOOKS ARE ONLY A PART OF A MUCH BROADER THOUGHT. BY THE WAY GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT FROM YOUR POLLUTION BUT BECAUSE YOUR PLANET IS MOVING 1.035 DEGREES FURTHER NORTH ON ITS AXIS AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE YEAR 1999 LOOK IT UP.
I too bought the 140.00 book just for the 10 second miracle, wow I went through that 1200 page book twice took over 6 hours and I did not find it. I guess it will be in the next issue. LoL
ReplyDeleteI would have sent for the document but I had no money. But if you look up some of Wallace's stuff you will find it has to do with subjective truth. What I'm saying is if one believes enough in any one particular thing it can be manifested into reality. Those five stories I read many times and I found that they all share one thing in common: All the characters in those stories were at rock bottom. Their minds were set on change. It didn't matter if the stories were true or not. They were designed, I think, to program the readers mind for change, a positive one. A kind of re-set or re-programing of the mind. Three good things did happen. I was given money to gamble with: I lost it because I didn't believe. My friends began to literally do whatever I wanted them to do without me asking or demanding. I had more energy and laughed at everything. Drugs and alcohol became less enticing. I got all this from just reading and believing the orientation booklet. I didn't believe the preposterous stories themselves but the hidden power that they contained. I'm still broke and homeless, however, because I did not like the power I had so I simply turned it off and stopped using it. It's a choice. it or not.
ReplyDeleteHeres how this stuff works: Picture in your mind something you desire. Hold it for ten seconds focusing only on that object, place, event, person, or situation. Not letting anything other than that enter your mind you stay focused...With time this form of constructive imagination will come easier. With deep focus and with a profound burning desire a situation will arise leading or directly related to your desire. There is one catch: It only works with things and people that will better your life, so don't feel bad when it seems to fail. You don't know the bigger picture yet. There are people and situations in our lives that we don't consciously know of that harm us. Our subconscious brain knows whats best. Listen to the inner wisdom of your heart. Make sure your desire is accompanied with love for others and yourself. Remember desires are meant to be fulfilled not suppressed. Free your mind with the understanding that everything will work out beautifully. One more thing: Desire is not addiction.
ReplyDeleteTHESE MOTHAFUCKAS R DOING A FUKIN ASS SCAM ON US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat can we do? I fell for the desperation and I consider myself educated...I'm the idiot! I wish I had looked this up beforehand. I should've known better...Hope new people read these posts and see the fraud!!
ReplyDeleteI too received the booklet that was sent to me free, did read the 5 stores, it only show me not to make the same mistakes they made, hearing other problems will cause you not to take the same direction in life, you can learn from other people mistakes, so i felt that I should not by the 2nd book for $140 I felt in my heart to do research, concerning this, we must do our homework, or we will be scamed, no peace about it, check it out, peace about it still check it out no matter which way do your homework, thank god for this web page, I laught so much with what 2 anonymous said until I became happy, remember laughter is good for the soul, I also, know that there is nothing new under the sun, only new to those who have not experienced it, as we can see from ages 20 and over 50, also want to let you know don't fall for any scams especially, money orders and cashier checks, make sure before you deposite into your account and send the requested money to another location that these money orders and cahsier checks are good, let your bank check them out or go to their bank and cash it, and you don't win money if you have not entered, any thing you have to give money to receive money is a scam, I know there is a time for everything, and their time is up, be blessed, be encourage.,
ReplyDeleteBefore noeuveau tech was neo tech. i bought that one years ago for $39. It worked. Mainly because of the diet it advocated - avoiding caffeiene, alcohol and sugar. I did - I lost weight and thought much more clearly and started making a lot more money at the age of 38. Now I'm 57 and I too received the letter. I didn't buy it. Don't you, either. lol - but DO give up the three items above for a longer and healthier life.Neo - Tech also recommended reading Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution. Atkins was a genius and I think Frank Wallace was also. Wallace in Neo - Tech advised running 5 miles a day. I did. Good things happened. Frank Wallace, creator of neo-tech ( the menendez brothers murdered their neo-tech parents - remember?) died a couple of years back when he was run over by a car - while jogging at the age of 73.
ReplyDeletePeace out.
I was so enthralled at receiving this opportunity I sent them $1000 in their self addressed envelope in hopes of receiving all of the books immediately on the "secrets of getting easy money, power and free love". My son asked why we were $1000 short from his Monopoly game and I told him that I was investing in the future. It's too bad there are such morons out there trying to scam others of their money because they're to damn lazy to earn it the proper way of working hard. If everyone were to work hard then they should be able to realize it's more beneficial to oneself to work smart. Unfortunately for those who are IQly challenged scams will continue. I would hope that John(the signer of the letter), his lawyer and his group would be able to experience a short life.
ReplyDeleteI got the same letter about 3 years ago, and again this week. This time I KNOW it's got something to do with Kevin Trudeau. I recently ordered his Debt Cures Book (also a bunch of bull). The only time I ever got those red & blue trimmed envelopes was from family in Europe & Kevin Trudaeu (however you spell it). I'm disappointed that he's a scam artist. I wanted to believe he was a financial genious & that I could learn from him. It really pisses me off that people are getting rich by preying on the insecurities & emotions of those less fortunate. I'm going start my own secret society. The secret is don't listen to crooked Kevin. What a creep!
ReplyDeletethe secret is to not listen to any thing that comes in the mail that you has to send them any money.Its all a scam these people get you when you down.they know the econamey is bad people drawing unimployment times are hard Thanks
ReplyDeletehehe...says the devil
ReplyDeleteit is wonderful that you took the time to post this scam on the internet.
ReplyDeleteit's not worth the $.48 cents to send for the so-called Free-Membership Invitation Form.
After reading the letter carefully I realized it was all true and I had great magical and mystical and testicle powers. Just the first day I saved $140.00 by not buying their crap, after several days of meditation and pondering my navel, I now save over $1400.00 a day by not buying their crap ten times a day. Soon I'll have saved a million dollars
ReplyDeleteThis is a scam. If you sent money to these people, please contact your local postal inspector. Their claims are fraudulent. Any fraud over fifty dollars is prosecutable under U.S. Federal law. These guys will be put where they belong. -- I am a Financial, Environmental,Legal Research Consultant, and a writer/publisher.
ReplyDeleteDon't get scammed, send them to prison.